Count Humbert SAVOY, III
Countess Beatrix Vienne SAVOY
(Abt 1138-Bef 1230)
Count William GENEVA, I
(Abt 1130-1195)
Countess Agnes SAVOY
(Abt 1138-1177)
Count Thomas SAVOY, I
Beatrice Margaret GENEVA
(Abt 1180-1257)
Lord Thomas PIEDMONT, II
(-Abt 1259)


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Countess Joan FLANDERS

Lord Thomas PIEDMONT, II

  • Born: , Savoy, France
  • Married: Abt 1238
  • Died: Abt 1259, , Piedmont

   Another name for Thomas was PIEDMONT Lord.

   General Notes:

Lord of PIEDMONT 1233-1259.

A History of the Plantagenets, Vol II, The Magnificent Century, Thomas B Costain, 1951, Doubleday & Co
p202: "The explanation of this totally unexpected outburst was given bit by bit...Simon had owed a debt of 2,080 marks to Peter Mauclerc, the Duke of Brittany. When the creditor decided to go on the Crusades the collection of this debt was left to the courts of Rome. The papal officers had first threatened to lay an interdict on the lands of Leicester, then, finding it impossible to get bolld from a stone, had transferred the debt to Thomas of Savoy, the Queen's uncle, and in the second, it happened that Thomas of Savoy had married Joan, Countess of Flanders, after her betrothal to Simon had been broken, and this gave an edge of malice to his demands for payment. The King was furious that this trouble had risen to plague him and he raved at the debtor...

The Political History of England 1216-1377, Vol III, T F Tout, 1905, AMS Press,
p54: "The new queen's kinsfolk quickly acquired an almost unbounded ascen- dency over her weak husband. With the exception of the reigning Count Amadeus of Savoy, her eight maternal uncles were somewhat scantily provided for. The prudence of the French government prevented them from obtaining any advantage for themselves at the court of their niece the Queen of France, and they gladly welcomed the opportunity of establishing themselves at the expense of their English nephew. Self-seeking and not over-scrupulous, able, energetic and with the vigour and resource of high-born soldiers of fortune, several of them play honourable parts in the history of their own land...[The Bishop-elect William of Valence]'s influence with Henry did much to secure for his brother, Thomas of Savoy, the hand of the elderly countess Joan of Flanders. With Thomas as the successor of Ferdinand of Portugal, the rich Flemish county, bound to England by so many political and economic ties, seemed in safe hands, and preserved from French influence. In 1238 Thomas visited England, and received a warm welcome and rich presents from the king..."

   Marriage Information:

Thomas married Countess Joan FLANDERS about 1238.

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